Question Summary:
Are these hadiths about talking in the masjids reliable?

Question Detail:

1.Hadith : "Conversation in the Masjid eats up good deeds the way fire eat woods.”
or
Hadith : “Conversation in the Masjid eats up good deeds the way animals consume grass.”
[Ihya Uloom-ud-Din]
 
Many Muhaditheen stated that above hadith has no basis.
Please do its takhreej.And whether it has any ASAL ( basis )
And say that it is of what type : sahih , modhoh , dheef etc ?
And whether it is allowed to tell this hadith to others ?
 
2.Hadith states likes this : "When a person comes to masjid and he talks too much,then Angels tell him :O ! Allah's Friend , be quiet,if he continues to talk then Angels tell him :Ya Bighaizilllah , be quiet,if he continues to talk then Angels tell him :Be quiet,on you have Allah's La'nat."
Reference : [Al-Madkhal 2/227,Dar ul Fikar , Bairut ut twaba 1401 Hijri]
 
Please do its takhreej.And whether it has any ASAL ( basis )
And say that it is of what type : sahih , modhoh , dheef etc ?
And whether it is allowed to tell this hadith to others ?

Answer :

In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
Assalāmu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullāhi wa barakātuh
 
Imām al-Ghazālī mentions in Ihyā’ ‘Ulūm al-Dīn:
“It is reported in a narration [from the Salaf] or in a report [from the Prophet]: ‘Talking in the masjid devours good deeds just as an animal devours grass.’”[1]
Hāfiz Zayn al-Dīn al-‘Irāqī (725 – 806 H) said: “I found no basis for it.”[2]
Tāj al-Dīn al-Subkī (727 – 771 H) included it amongst the hadīths of Ihyā’ ‘Ulūm al-Dīn for which he could not find an isnād (chain of narration).[3]
Hence, it will not be permissible to quote this narration as a hadīth of Rasūlullāh (sallAllāhu ‘alayhi wasallam).[4]
The second narration was mentioned by Ibn al-Hājj al-‘Abdarī al-Mālikī (d. 737 H) in al-Madkhal, a work on correcting religious practice. He says:
“It was also narrated from him [i.e. the Prophet], upon him blessing and peace, that he said: ‘When a man comes to the masjid, and makes much conversation, the angels say to him: Be quiet, O friend of Allāh! If he increases, they say: Be quiet, O one despised by Allāh! If he continues, they say: Be quiet, the curse of Allāh be upon you!’”[5]
This is the earliest reference we could find for this narration. Since this is not a work on hadīth, and Ibn al-Hājj did not mention its source or its chain of narration, it will not be permissible to quote it as a hadīth of Rasūlullāh (sallAllāhu ‘alayhi wasallam).[6]
And Allah Ta‘ālā Knows Best
Zameelur Rahman
Student Darul Iftaa
UK